Heaven Is for Real…But So Is Hell

Hello, tender friends!

No, this will not be a post full of screaming for repentance. I often pray about when it’s time to release things, or if I’m supposed to release them at all, and Anthony has given me permission to share his experience of hell.

What made me ask him if I could? Most people know that Matthew Perry passed away a few weeks ago. Growing up, Friends was a show that I watched often, and I frequently wonder if people are in heaven or hell.

It has nothing to do with the fact that he was famous. I’m generally curious about people’s final destination, famous or not. But when I read this small excerpt from his memoir, I wondered if he meant he had literally experienced hell:

“‘There is a hell,” he wrote in his memoir. “Don’t let anyone tell you different. I’ve been there: it exists: end of discussion.”‘

If you’ve been following this blog for a while, you know that Anthony spent decades of his life mired in addiction. During that period of his life, he overdosed several times.

One time, when he “came back,” he remembered it like this: “I was running in a dark forest terrified. I thought I heard people calling my name but I couldn’t get to them. I kept tripping and couldn’t stop tripping.”

He didn’t see a lake of fire or encounter demons or Satan himself as some people do. We were dating when he first told me this story, and I hopefully asked if he was perhaps in heaven since he was in a forest and a forest didn’t seem so bad.

“No, I was definitely not in heaven,” he answered.

Truthfully, I knew that before I asked, but I was scared to acknowledge that the man I loved, the man who was to become my husband, could have experienced hell.

(This makes me lean hard into the responsibility to raise up godly children, but I need to wrap this post up).

I don’t know if Matthew Perry is in heaven or hell or anyone else. That’s far beyond me.

What I do know is this: following God doesn’t save any of us from heartache, but it’s still the best way I know of to mitigate the worst of life’s trials. So as for me and my house, we keep imperfectly trying to serve the Lord.

Okay, that’s all for today, tender friends! I’d like to finish up my thoughts related to this post on Thursday. I know I’m overdue for a food post, so I’ll be sharing a food post on Monday.

Thank you for stopping by, thank you to the new friends, and thank you for sharing!

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  1. chris@chrisbriscoebooks

    Dear Tea-and-Tend,

    WHAT A GREAT AND HONEST LIFE-MOTTO:

    “What I do know is this: following God doesn’t save any of us from heartache, but it’s still the best way I know of to mitigate the worst of life’s trials. So as for me and my house, we keep imperfectly trying to serve the Lord.”

    God bless you with his seet increased anointing upon your life and words, to bring more glory to him,

    Chris.

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    1. Stacey

      Thank you, Chris, for your kind words. We keep trying.

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  2. Regal woman@TransamEagle

    Sobering, thanks for sharing.

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    1. Stacey

      Thank you for reading, dear Teresa.

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  3. Nancy Ruegg

    Amen to your conclusion, Stacey. I’ve been privileged to know some incredible saints of God who suffered pain, heartache, and trouble. Yet their faith kept them strong, joyful, and at peace. God never promised heaven on earth; he promised a new heaven and a new earth–one day. The Apostle Paul offers a worthwhile attitude to pursue as we wait: I “I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us” (Romans 8:18). Hallelujah!

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    1. Stacey

      Thank you, Nancy, for your beautiful words!

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  4. Awakening Wonders

    Stacey, this is a great way to live -“What I do know is this: following God doesn’t save any of us from heartache, but it’s still the best way I know of to mitigate the worst of life’s trials. So as for me and my house, we keep imperfectly trying to serve the Lord.”

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    1. Stacey

      Thank you, Mary!

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  5. Jeffrey H. King

    I read a book years ago, 23 Minutes in Hell by Bill Wiese. He had a near death experience where Gd showed him hell and exhorted him to tell people, because too many people don’t give it much credence.

    You can also hear the experience of another man who was dead for 31 minutes and saw both heaven and hell. Episode 266 on a podcast called The Confessionals is an interview with Jason Knapp and his wife Amy. I tracked them down as they also live in TN. We had dinner with them in Paris, TN. It was a great, informative time!

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    1. Stacey

      Jeff, I’ve heard other people talk about that book, but I’ve never read it.

      That’s so cool that you had dinner with Jason Knapp and his wife. It’s one thing to hear about things on podcasts or read about things, but I imagine it’s even wilder to meet someone in person who has experienced hell. I admire your persistence in tracking them down to meet!

      I’ll have to check your blog out later for updates! Heading off to church now.

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      1. Jeffrey H. King

        Jason was great! I think of it as knowing someplace like Paris exists, but it gains reality to hear someone who’s been there talk about it!

        Haven’t done a lot of writing, but hope to put out a couple things this week.

        God bless and Merry Christmas!!

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